Comments on: A Car App in 6 Months: Mercedes-Benz / Daimler Gains Pace with Cloud Foundry https://www.altoros.com/blog/a-car-app-in-6-months-mercedes-benz-daimler-gains-pace-with-cloud-foundry/ Insight Mon, 13 Dec 2021 19:44:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.0.6 By: TheMeerkat https://www.altoros.com/blog/a-car-app-in-6-months-mercedes-benz-daimler-gains-pace-with-cloud-foundry/#comment-598 Wed, 12 Dec 2018 10:01:21 +0000 http://www.altoros.com/blog/?p=18095#comment-598 Or course “pair programming was absolutely necessary” – it allows Pivotal to sell two developers instead of one and, surprise, surprise, on every project this awful practice becomes “necessary”.

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By: Businessmindltd https://www.altoros.com/blog/a-car-app-in-6-months-mercedes-benz-daimler-gains-pace-with-cloud-foundry/#comment-556 Mon, 20 Aug 2018 07:14:02 +0000 http://www.altoros.com/blog/?p=18095#comment-556 This cutting edge technology helps man kind a lot

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By: Businessmindltd https://www.altoros.com/blog/a-car-app-in-6-months-mercedes-benz-daimler-gains-pace-with-cloud-foundry/#comment-259 Sat, 06 May 2017 08:28:00 +0000 http://www.altoros.com/blog/?p=18095#comment-259 I found this article very useful.Usually I never comment on blogs but your article is so convincing that I never stop myself to say something about it. You’re doing a great job Man,Keep it up.

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By: Businessmindltd https://www.altoros.com/blog/a-car-app-in-6-months-mercedes-benz-daimler-gains-pace-with-cloud-foundry/#comment-674 Sat, 06 May 2017 08:28:00 +0000 http://www.altoros.com/blog/?p=18095#comment-674 I found this article very useful.Usually I never comment on blogs but your article is so convincing that I never stop myself to say something about it. You’re doing a great job Man,Keep it up.

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By: TheMeerkat https://www.altoros.com/blog/a-car-app-in-6-months-mercedes-benz-daimler-gains-pace-with-cloud-foundry/#comment-242 Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:22:00 +0000 http://www.altoros.com/blog/?p=18095#comment-242 In reply to Alex Khizhnyak.

“Bus factor” argument is a bad one. It assumes that without pair programming developers divide parts of the code between them and never touch each other code. How is that right?
“Technical debt” – there is a much better (and cheaper” way to achieve quality. It is code reviews. These achieves better results in terms of quality while not forcing people to sit in an uncomfortable position while looking over each other shoulder.
Knowledge transfer might work for some people, but not for all. Many people learn better when they have time to think, not when someone else provides them with ready answers.

As for “wasting money” – there is a lot of it in the software development industry. I have worked in it for long enough to know that.
BTW – the worst waste of money I have seen in my life was in a company where IT was run by former ThoughtWorks employees (ThoughtWorks is another consultancy with mandatory pair programming). It was the only place when the re-written a not that old application twice in two years, first in Java and then in Scala, for no apparent reasons. There was forced pair programming to the company (I guess they still felt like consultancy employees).

http://sceptical-meerkat.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/pair-programming-whats-in-it-for-me.html

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By: Alex Khizhnyak https://www.altoros.com/blog/a-car-app-in-6-months-mercedes-benz-daimler-gains-pace-with-cloud-foundry/#comment-241 Thu, 19 Jan 2017 21:58:00 +0000 http://www.altoros.com/blog/?p=18095#comment-241 In reply to TheMeerkat.

Hi,

This only may sound like a waste of money, but in reality even our developers–who paired with Pivotal, by the way (!)–are very excited about the efficiency of pair programming. I asked them why they like the Pivotal approach, and they mentioned a couple of reasons:

–lower technical debt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_debt)
–better “bus factor” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor)
–extremely fast knowledge transfer (up to 5x faster onboarding–due to having a person who is aware of all details/pitfalls/issues)

If PP wasn’t efficient that much, Pivotal wouldn’t have use it for their own internal projects. However, you’d better ask them or collaborate with them–I don’t think it’s a good idea to make assumptions and discuss the company without involvement with them. I also do not think that a manufacturer like Daimler/Mercedes would waste its money in vain. When the speed of delivery matters (and matters a lot), and PP can accelerate the process, why not?..

At the same time, Pivotal wrote “pair programming isn’t for everyone or every company.” So, sure, it depends. =)

This tweet explains it in short–better than thousands of words: https://twitter.com/benrady/status/817430925176958977 — There’s nothing more to add. =)

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By: Alex Khizhnyak https://www.altoros.com/blog/a-car-app-in-6-months-mercedes-benz-daimler-gains-pace-with-cloud-foundry/#comment-658 Thu, 19 Jan 2017 21:58:00 +0000 http://www.altoros.com/blog/?p=18095#comment-658 In reply to TheMeerkat.

Hi,

This only may sound like a waste of money, but in reality even our developers–who paired with Pivotal, by the way (!)–are very excited about the efficiency of pair programming. I asked them why they like the Pivotal approach, and they mentioned a couple of reasons:

–lower technical debt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_debt)
–better “bus factor” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor)
–extremely fast knowledge transfer (up to 5x faster onboarding–due to having a person who is aware of all details/pitfalls/issues)

If PP wasn’t efficient that much, Pivotal wouldn’t have use it for their own internal projects. However, you’d better ask them or collaborate with them–I don’t think it’s a good idea to make assumptions and discuss the company without involvement with them. I also do not think that a manufacturer like Daimler/Mercedes would waste its money in vain. When the speed of delivery matters (and matters a lot), and PP can accelerate the process, why not?..

At the same time, Pivotal wrote “pair programming isn’t for everyone or every company.” So, sure, it depends. =)

This tweet explains it in short–better than thousands of words: https://twitter.com/benrady/status/817430925176958977 — There’s nothing more to add. =)

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By: TheMeerkat https://www.altoros.com/blog/a-car-app-in-6-months-mercedes-benz-daimler-gains-pace-with-cloud-foundry/#comment-230 Mon, 26 Dec 2016 12:38:00 +0000 http://www.altoros.com/blog/?p=18095#comment-230 Or course “pair programming was absolutely necessary” – it allows Pivotal to sell two developers instead of one and, surprise, surprise, on every project this awful practice becomes “necessary”.

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